2. I ended using double ear protection when on the range all day with 357 Sig. 45 ACP still gets the nod on the 1911 front. In my opinion, the 165 grain 40S&W we issue recoils more than our former 125 grain 357 Sig but the 357 had much more muzzle flash and blast. Even if .357 is twice as powerful as 9mm, you can make twice as many holes with 9mm, generally twice as fast. But dont want to do the old tired 9mm vs 45 and 40 is kinda dead soooooo; Thoughts about Sig 357 vs 45 ACP? The .357 SIG remains one of the most accurate handgun cartridges available, but it has not achieved the outstanding commercial success of the 9mm Auto. In general, 357 SIG runs hot or hotter across a narrow range of 9mm bullet weights (115-147) in a gun that is lighter than its' 10 AUTO version (10: wider slide, frame). I own both, carry both. The .357 SIG emerged in the early '90s and was adopted by many law-enforcement agencies, but this high-speed cartridge has seen a decline in recent years. Penetration test between the 40 S&W, 357 SIG, 9MM, and 45 ACP.Firearms used:M&P 40 Pro series. NOTE: This answer assumes you meant the .357 Magnum revolver round, which is much better known than the .357 SIG auto round. I’ve heard all kinds of things about the .357 SIG over the years, some good and some bad, some true and some false. Both are entrenched in culture and known to those who are pretty far removed from the shooting world in general. It’s got the magazine capacity of a .40 S&W in any given gun, and it has a 200 to 400 foot per second velocity advantage over 9mm, depending on the load. Before we go much further, we should discuss 9mm vs 45 ballistics, and more importantly, what that information means for you. 357 SIG uses 9mm bullets which are less expensive than 40 cal bullets. Many many more pistol factories turning out large numbers of 9mm sized frames compared to .45 ACP sized frames required for 10mm. Save Share. Today on Kentucky Ballistics we shoot some soft body armor with 9mm, 357 Sig, 10mm and 5.7x28mm! I had a Sig Nightmare 1911 in Sig 357 and still kinda kick myself for trading it off. Prior to adopting the .357 SIG round, the Secret Service issued the P228 in 9 mm Luger, though that pistol only lasted around 7-8 years before being superseded by the P229 DAK. 9mm SD ammo gets the lions share of R&D money from the manufactures, and the bullets are usually about one generation ahead of what is in the average .357 SIG load.. All a .357 SIG will do for you anyway is make practice ammo cost prohibitive, reduce your mag capacity by a few rounds, and make you drive further to find it on a shelf somewhere. 3. .357 Sig in 4" barrel 600 or just below ft/lbs. We plan to help you answer all those questions, this time around, we'll discus .40 S&W vs .357 Sig, two very capable self-defense cartridges. 9mm vs 357 sig ballistics, 9mm+p vs 357 sig, sig 357 vs 9mm. Sig Sauer Elite Performance 357 Sig 125gr fmj. 9mm vs 45 ACP Ballistics. I have .40 S&W, 9mm and .357 Sig barrels for it. I like the P229. Can’t be sure, though; details are important. Today, we’re looking at how the results from our recent .357 Sig ballistic gel test measure up to the alternatives as we consider the pros and cons of this niche caliber.. Watch the video below for details, or just scroll down and read the full transcript. Search this Thread: Advanced Search. In case you have never heard of the .357Sig, The Sig Sauer Firearms Company was asked back in 1994 by Federal to collaborate on a hot new cartridge that rivaled the venerable .357 Magnum in ballistics. Thread Tools: Search this Thread: Show Printable Version. 357 Sig is a proprietary cartridge developed by Sig Sauer, the ginormous gun company. Level IIIA soft body armor vs 9mm +P, .357 Sig, & .45ACP +P, with Casual707. Switch to Hybrid Mode. There is absolutely no substantial difference between the best loads in 9mm vs. 357 SIG. Now in a .357 mag with 6" barrel vs. a .357 Glock with 4" barrel the .357 mag wins. 10mm vs. 357 SIG The .357 Sig continues to flourish because it has been adopted by many law enforcement agencies. Is IIIA capable of stopping these common pistol rounds? The FBI’s test protocol set the ideal penetration depth at 12 to 18 inches. 1. I think that 9mm SIG would have went over like a lead Zeppelin so the .357 SIG moniker was chosen, obviously to play upon the legendary .357 Magnum. Thoughts... With the. I don’t have vast experience with the .357, but I’ve come to enjoy shooting it. Despite less use than other cartridges, the .357 SIG is a fast, accurate, and powerful cartridge that can be used … 357 Magnum Trajectory vs. 357 Sig Although trajectory, or the amount of drop, in a handgun cartridge is not as important as a rifle cartridge, it still matters, especially if you are using the round for hunting or target shooting at distances of 50 yards or more. There’s nothing inherently bad about the .357 SIG, and it does have a small but loyal following that swear by it. I will carry it for personal defense against humans (vs black bears which I also encounter). The .357 SIG is simply a .40 caliber Smith and Wesson necked down to 9mm. I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching! In this article, we are going to put the ballistic and other performance specs of these two cartridges next to each other. Email this Page. Today, the .357 SIG’s performance has turned me from foe to fan. Ammo used: Sig Sauer Elite Performance 10MM 180gr fmj. I prefer the feel of the 9mm chambered Hi Power to the .40 and conversions to 357 SIG would have to be to that version of the pistol. Reloading the slightly tapered 9mm case is easier than the bottlenecked SIG … According to Massad Ayoob in the March/April 06 American Handgunner, over sixteen per cent of state-police agencies use the .357 Sig (p. 22). I wish it was more popular. Most revolvers used by Police previously were 4" and that is what gave it the good track record. El .357 SIG o 9 × 22 mm en el sistema métrico, es un cartucho para pistola producido por el fabricante de armas suizo SIG-Sauer en colaboración con el fabricante de munición estadounidense Federal Cartridge.. Desarrollo. In fact, and I know this will come as a surprise, even the performance against barriers isn't as good as people on the internet seem to think. I think it’s time to set the record straight. Display Modes: Linear Mode. The .357 Sig reigns supreme on these barrier penetration tests followed by the 9mm as a close second. I'm satisfied with 9mm performance with several factory and handloaded rounds. Reloading 357 SIG is about the same cost as 9mm. The highest rated .357 Sig round is the Cor Bon, and it isn't even the hottest .357 Sig round. Penetration test between the 10MM, and the 357 SIG. .40 S&W vs. 9mm vs. .357 Sig which is more reliable and more appropriate for EDC personal defense? 9mm, 40 S&W & 357 SIG can all use the same primer & powder. The round was developed with one goal in mind: Push a 125-grain 9mm projectile to the same velocity - or so close that it makes no difference - as a 125-grain .357 Magnum projectile, when either was … The .357 Sig is a recent cartridge that has one characteristic exactly like the 9 mm Luger-it uses the same 124- and 147-grain bullets. .357 Sig fits in a 9mm sized frame, 10mm doesnt. 9mm vs .357 Sig vs 10mm vs 5.7x28mm vs Ballistic Gel Today on Kentucky Ballistics we perform a ballistic gel test with 9mm, 357 Sig, 10mm and 5.7x28mm. In a recent article, I wrote about the Glock 19 vs the SIG P229 9mm, both of whom I own, but my father recently hooked me on to .357 and I’m considering switching the P229 or even my Glock 19 gen 4 to that caliber. My first experience with the .357 SIG was very positive. 10 AUTO runs the gamut in both bullet weight (135-220) and velocity (loafing to screamin'), thus it is extremely versatile. Just something to consider. Furthermore, the sources they use as their basis for Conditinal Incapacitation Probabilities(1968/1991) and Range of equivalent effectiveness of M16 are from 1968. An average muzzle velocity of 9mm ammunition, that being the energy the bullet leaves the barrel with, is around 1,200 feet per second (commonly abbreviated as fps or ft/s). I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching! Reply. simple as that. 40 S&W and the .45 ACP, you get no extra performance with the added recoil you get from those 2 rounds. We switched to 40S&W and qual scores improved. Today I shot my old level 2 ballistic vest with Kevlar trauma insert. I shot it with a Glock 26 using 9mm fmj and 9mm hydra shok. (left to right) 9mm, .357 Sig, .40 S&W. In fact I now tend to prefer 357 over 9mm when I carry my double stack Sig’s. Click on a term to search for related topics. Same reason .40 S&W killed 10mm. Compare the 9mm 124 +P Gold Dot to the 357 SIG 125 Gold Dot etc. So there is economies of scale if you load more than one of these calibers. .357 Sig has a lot of devoted fans, but just as many shooters seem to have a hard time understanding what makes this cartridge special. 357 SIG uses a little more powder than 40 S&W but the difference is a fraction of a cent. The .357 vs 9mm is a comparison that features two of the more popular and well known cartridges. 357 Sig vs. 40 S&W Let’s start by considering how well each cartridge’s bullet does at what it’s meant to do, which is neutralize a target. I don’t compete with it—there’s no pistol game I shoot where that load gives any advantage—and I don’t teach with it because when I travel, less popular ammo like .357 SIG, 10mm, or .45 GAP is hard to find on the road. 9mm Ballistics. It's a good round but it's way more expensive, more muzzle flash & recoil and harder on guns. My agency issued 357 Sig for twelve years.